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The SWU Podcast LIVE | 19/10/18

Posted by Dominic Jones on 10/19/2018 4 comments

On this episode, Dominic, Ben, and Chris discuss the latest news in Star Wars, including some obscure references to, among other things, The Holiday Special in The Mandalorian. They also delve into what happened between Marvel and Star Wars author Chuck Wendig and how that situation might impact Star Wars going forward. Then they delve into the question of what is Star Wars without George Lucas? Plus, the latest on Galaxy's Edge, leaked set pics from Episode IX, and more thoughts on the final scenes of Solo. All this and much more!

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October 22, 2018 at 8:31 AM

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I love the Wendig discussion, though I feel a lot of people are not touching upon an even larger part of why this is bull; this does not just reflect upon Star Wars and its politics, this reflects upon Marvel. This is not the first time that this has happened at Marvel. The specific thing Marvel fired Chuck over was not only his "vulgarity" but also the vulgarity that follows suit. This is the exact same bull that followed after Marvel canned Chelsea Cain's mockingbird book and she fired back with her final cover. She had a cover with Mockingbird wearing a shirt that says "ask me about my feminist agenda" and sexist assholes went after her. The book was already being canned that is part of why she asked Jones to do that cover, but still Marvel pretty much allowing this to happen and then asking her to come back, she wrote six issues of a planned Vision limited series, and then boom before it even came out Marvel canned her citing some bull about "other plans for Viv Vision". We all know what happened, Marvel saw that sexists where still trying to fight Cain, so they chose the sexists even though Cain had a book about to be put out by Marvel. They also canned Mockingbird when only 3 issues where released.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/chelsea-cain-returns-yeah-im-dead-to-marvel-trust-me

This may seem like the start of something to star wars fans, but sadly this crap has already been going on at Marvel. Marvel lets slide tons of toxic writers who cause far more vulgarity in the fandom and themselves are far more excessive than Chuck, but they let it pass cause at the end of the day Marvel just wants to pander to the alt-right.

Dan Slott wrote spider-man for the past what 8+ years? He fucking would look up personal info on people who criticized his work and would harass them on all their social media accounts. Now Slott has also dealt with fans being dicks and has gotten death threats which is utterly disgusting. However why is it that a writer who gets death threats for years and has stalked fans is given a pass, but Wendig's twitter is just too controversial?

Heck Marvel just promoted C.B. Cebluski to editor and chief, a man who used a yellow face pseudonym to write asian characters in the early 2000s. Which almost everyone at Marvel knew about when hiring him. Marvel can just admit that they canned Wendig cause they want to appease the alt-right, no need to pretend it is anything else.

DC is honestly dealing with this type of thing much better. Margot Bennett gets death threats and crap like crazy and is even more outspoken than Wendig, Tom King needed an honest to god bodyguard at comic con cause of death threats. Keep in mind King is former CIA. And yet DC gives these -people more work, whereas Marvel gives more work to toxic people, and those that get harassed get canned if they step on the toes of bigots.

Also that editor, Mark, follows Ethan Van sciver, and if you know comicsgate you know exactly why that is all you need to know about this guy

October 22, 2018 at 9:14 AM

Unknown said...

October 22, 2018 at 9:46 AM

Unknown said...

FranchiseJedi made some interesting points and I totally agree with them about the connectivity in the ST, however I feel saying that Maul is there to tie everything into the larger idea that Han cannot escape the larger plot of the sith is a bit overstating things. We already got that idea of Han not being ever really divorced from the larger story with the entire Rebellion plot as well as the Empire still being a good enough representation of the larger hold the Sith have.

I like the symbolic idea, but that does not ease any issues Maul causes for the film itself and Qi'ra specifically. It goes back to the big thing with the Maul scene, not how does it connect to Han's story, but how does it affect Qi'ra's arc. it muddies those waters, and whatever interesting thematic point about the larger galaxy we can get out of it, does not really make me any less conflicted on how it somewhat detracts from Qo'ra's decision. Still a really solid argument though.

Dominic making a really solid point about the Jim Smith thing, perhaps with the knowledge of a sequel being unlikely, a better route would have been that if they wanted Maul in there we could have the larger idea of her having a restraining bolt portrayed by us knowing who he is; whereas Qi'ra thinks this Dathomirian guy is just another boss who she can play like she did Dryden. If that was the case, then Maul being there instead of Jim Smith would be a bit easier to swallow. Funnily enough I always defend the lightsaber ignition, but if we go with Ben's idea then that actually would make my opinion on the ignition flip. I mean that or they could have her not know the kind of threat Maul is and then the saber be what tips her off, so then she has made this choice thinking she is more or less free and Maul is there to pretty much tell her what she said to Han "everyone answers to somebody".

Love the listener feedback and it honestly reminds me why I lean towards critically have misgivings about Maul, cause there is so much to talk about with just Qi'ra in that scene. Maul does not detract cause we should not be talking about him in a Han film, he detracts cause we should be almost fully fixated on Qi'ra in that moment. That is my main misgiving. Thanks again for discussing my comment!

October 22, 2018 at 10:44 AM

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