By: Dominic Jones
Warning: This story contains spoilers from Star Wars: The Force Awakens. If you haven't seen it yet, stop reading now.
Following a screening of Star Wars: The Force Awakens on Saturday, the film's screenwriters JJ Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt took part in a discussion about the film. One of the topics they got into was R2-D2 and Luke Skywalker's roles in the film. Arndt stated that he originally had R2 being introduced with C-3PO, saying, "I had originally written R2 and C-3PO showing up together, and Larry
very intelligently said, ‘You want to keep them separate from each
other. And of course I’m like, ‘No, no, no, Larry. You don’t get it at all!’"
Abrams also explained why it was that R2 woke up at the end of the film, saying, "BB-8 comes up and says something to him, which is basically, ‘I’ve got
this piece of a map, do you happen to have the rest? The
idea was, R2 who has been all over the galaxy, is still in his coma,
but he hears this. And it triggers something that would ultimately wake
him up."
Arndt also revealed that early versions of the film had featured Luke in a far more active role, but he explained that it was always to the detriment of the new characters. He stated that,
"Early on I tried to write versions of the story where [Rey] is at
home, her home is destroyed, and then she goes on the road and meets
Luke. And then she goes and kicks the bad guy’s ass. It
just never worked and I struggled with this. This was back in 2012.
It just felt like every time Luke came in and entered the movie, he just took it over,” Arndt said. “Suddenly you didn’t care about your main character anymore because, ‘Oh f–k, Luke Skywalker’s here. I want to see what he’s going to do.’"
Entertainment Weekly revealed that the writers considered many ideas for what the film's McGuffin could be, before settling on the search for Luke be what was driving the plot. Apparently these included, "a search for Darth Vader’s remains, or a quest to the underwater wreckage of the second Death Star to recover a key piece of history about sacred Jedi sites in the galaxy."
As for how R2 got the information, Arndt revealed an early idea and then Abrams explained why they left it vague in the film (via EW),
The story group’s thinking went back to the 1977 original movie, when R2-D2 accessed the Empire’s mainframe as the heroes searched for the captured Princess Leia. “We had the idea about R2 plugging into the information base of the Death Star, and that’s how he was able to get the full map and find where the Jedi temples are,” Arndt said.
Abrams says he chose to spell this out indirectly in the movie because he didn’t want the story to get bogged down in “how s–t happened 30 years ago.”
“But the idea was that in that scene where R2 plugged in, he downloaded the archives of the Empire, which was referenced by Kylo Ren,” Abrams said.
I hope video exists of this talk, it would be great to see the writers discuss the process of coming up with the story of The Force Awakens in depth. Also, having Arndt be part of this and hearing how much he influenced the story suggests to me that his departure from the film was far more amicable than some suggested when it was announced.
Source: Entertainment Weekly
I understand the struggle on Luke's drawing of attention when came into play, however it is just natural as a result of the storyline of the original trilogy. Despite of all the scenario and story, it was mainly wrapped around luke's development. We as fans understand the necessity of replacement of old blood with the new blood, and luke is the key character for old blood. Everyone is more interested in Luke's capabilities as a Jedi after 30 years from Return of the Jedi. So I strongly hope that they will not just Passifize luke throughout the remaining chapters to shine out new characters, respect and conclude our curiosity towards Luke and create a highly balanced trilogy between the old and the new, smooth enough to close the book for the old trilogy and open another book for the new ones. Just keep the balance, Disney.
ReplyDeleteAgreed Unknown!! Disney, you can't make us wait 30 years and just quickly skim over original characters like they are insignificant! NOT HAPPY with the way Solo was portrayed or killed at all. And there are so many questions we fans were wanting answers to and didn't get. PLEASE do right by all of us originals in the next two!!!
DeleteIs it really hard in the Galaxy to take a hard disk out of R2, download the data, and put it back?
ReplyDeleteR2 was created in a time before USB. Probably RS232 and you can't get those USB adapters to work properly. His drives are sealed units.
DeleteR2 was created in a time before USB. Probably RS232 and you can't get those USB adapters to work properly. His drives are sealed units.
DeletePropably it's not a "hard disc". R2 as autonomic droid have a lot of internal memory where he can give or not give access.
ReplyDeleteBy the way - nobody knows that R2 had that map...
Why do they need the address anyway? Just get the address and put it in google maps and away we go....does that work?
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ReplyDeleteI agree with the first comment of Unkown- albeit it was a very good hook to do within the main stream of things and with the public, I honor the character and do not think it would all be about Skywalker- I think letting go of that idea would free alot more creativity up in how to use the character and weave it in and out, I think that it would have been even stronger to indulge that character and not omit it to the extent that is was done, looking forward to a bit more involvement in the next installment.
ReplyDeleteOne question remains. How did max von sydows character get his piece of the map?
ReplyDeleteRumors.. he was an Imperial admiral left for dead in the desert after the battle of Jakku, and turned to a sympathiser of the rebelllion shortly after...
DeleteRumors.. he was an Imperial admiral left for dead in the desert after the battle of Jakku, and turned to a sympathiser of the rebelllion shortly after...
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ReplyDeleteI don't understand why everyone is so concerned about tiny details that may or may not be plot holes. What baffles me is why everyone seems okay with story points like: Luke Skywalker runs and hides and says f**k all. Han and Leia abandon their family and just bury their feelings and go do something else. These are major character flaws completely contradict who they are in the OT. I know people change, but not like that. Not so completely.
ReplyDeleteIt seems though, that everyone is just fine with this. But an insignificant bumbling fool like Jar Jar made everyone lose their minds. This is why I no longer want to be around Star Wars "fans".
OH MY GOSH SOMEBODY THAT GETS IT!!! My thoughts EXACTLY!! But lol, I will ALWAYS be a Star Wars "fan", I just over think A LOT!! ;)
DeleteOH MY GOSH SOMEBODY THAT GETS IT!!! My thoughts EXACTLY!! But lol, I will ALWAYS be a Star Wars "fan", I just over think A LOT!! ;)
DeleteI'm sure Luke's story will be explained more deeply in episode VIII.
ReplyDeleteJimmy, there is nothing wrong with the way Luke, Han and Leia handle their respective situations.
ReplyDeleteLuke had the huge responsibility of training the next generation of Jedi. And for one of his students to fall to darkside in much the same way as his father had would be devastating. And its seems as though all the other students were killed, so he was once again the only Jedi. I would imagine he felt the same as Obi Wan and Yoda did when they went into hiding after Ep 3. I could see that defeating the darkside would be too great of task on his own, so it makes sense to wait for the Force to present some help (now in the form of Rey).
And as far as Han and Leia are concerned - losing a child tears families apart. And its not hard to consider their child going to the darkside and becoming a murderer to be the same as losing him. There is guilt and blame that gets tossed around so much to the point that you can’t stand being around the other person because it brings those feeling up again. It would make sense that they would preoccupy themselves with their work to help push those feelings down. As they mention in the film, they both went back to what they were best at. This would help to give them a sense of control over what their lives had become. And perhaps, subconsciously, they thought fighting against First Order or smuggling might one day allow them to cross paths with their son again.
My thoughts exactly. If my son became a murderer and killed 30-40 people i would be more devastated than my son dying as a good person.
DeleteNeeds more Luke!!!
ReplyDeleteWe wanna see him kicking knights of ren as in viii
The search for Luke was more than a minor detail in the movie, it was the over-arching theme of the movie. It deserved a bit more in-movie clarity than this.
ReplyDeleteThe R2 explanation sucks. Hard to believe that a droid would hear something and take a few days (or however long) to process it and be like "Oh wait...BB-8 said something important a while back...I'll react to it NOW!!!"
ReplyDeleteHere's the only explanation that makes any sense: Luke split the map into 2 parts for added security, putting one part into R2 with instructions to not reveal it until told. At the end, Luke sensed he needed to be found and, either through the Force or a transmitter, activated R2.
Luke didn't want to simply come back on his own because he didn't want the distractions and hubbub that would result in him making a pubic appearance again (or put the resistance in danger).