The SWU Podcast | Kanjikast #22 | The Star Wars Underworld

Wednesday, August 8, 2018

The SWU Podcast | Kanjikast #22

Posted by Dominic Jones on 8/08/2018 1 comments

On this episode, Ben and Chris are joined by SWU Patreon supporters Katie Horn, Marina Payne, Andy Seiner, Nikk Serrano, Matt Taylor, Joey Mays, Michael Dengler, and Gary Myer to discuss all things Star Wars! They cover the recent Star Wars Episode IX casting news, the announcement that The Clone Wars is coming back, and some more talk about Solo: A Star Wars Story. All this and much more!

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Whoa whoa whoa, Chris really strawmaned the "bring back legends' fans. Saying that they "know deep down that what they are doing is wrong' is just patronizing and is exactly why a lot of legends fans act like they have to be legends or canon with no in between. Seriously dude there are plenty of good people, even people who like canon, who want Legends back or want some stuff continued for that continuity.

As someone who used to have very negative opinions on the canon and just want Legends back, i can attest that a ton of that comes from a simmering sense of not being included due to that exact kind of blanket, rude, strawman treatment you just gave them.

Yes the bring back legends group certainly was more toxic, but it was also a larger group with several more generations of fans dived up so unfortunately far less understanding and more toxic fans are gonna join that group, even if the group itself does not have a negative goal.

I know plenty of people who still want legends back, and still lobby for that, who do enjoy or are open to the canon. If you wanna stop that polarization maybe dont pour freaking gasoline into the fire every time you mention legends. It is that exact kind of attitude that made me really really hesitant to try the new canon, cause I felt like as someone who still wished Legends was around, I was not welcome in the fandom anymore. you cannot say they are the ones who separated themselves when you have done that yourself.

Seriously I love the canon, and i love this podcast, but man can you guys seem really really narrow minded when it comes to legends fans. Even though I am not so much a part of the save legends crowd, I still feel ostracized damn near every time you guys talk about legends cause there is always scorn and blanket disapproval of the entire fandom. even if that is not your intent, you do a bad job of being cautious of that which just further divides the fandom.

Sorry if this is ranty but that comment really offended me and brought up a lot of simmering feelings of the hypocrisy of a lot of canon fans when they talk about the toxicity of legends fans. the pot is calling the kettle black so to speak. You need to be more understanding (or I guess give more recognition) to the fact that plenty of people who want legends back in some form, are not toxic, do not hate canon, or just plain prefer legends and are uninterested in canon but still want to be a part of the fandom. And they have every right to express those feelings. Sure when they act like a-holes they need to be called out on that, but I have seen plenty of toxic bull from the save clone wars crowd as recent as when BFII was released. When you lump and entire viewpoint or movement into the worst of the group; you to are a part of the toxicity of the fandom. I know that is not your intent, but the blanket, strawman attitude and statements do a lot more harm than you think they do. Saying that people who want legends back are toxic in and of themselves is offensive, not just as a person who had that view at one point, but just as a fan of this franchise who does not want that entire group to feel left out and unwanted simply cause you use hyperbole without keeping in mind who might be ostracized.

Sorry if this came off as rude or anything, but the comment really got under my skin and brought up something that has bugged me for a while that I have mostly tried to ignore. I am not angry and still agree with you guys on most things, I just thought someone should voice how unintentionally divisive and narrow minded that kind of comment is.

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